Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:26 am
Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:46 pm
Lord wrote:I read an interview on Jonathan Mover where he talked briefly about his time with Marillion writing for the LP Fugazi:
http://www.jonathanmover.com/magazines/ ... rummer.htm
Marillion was Jonathan's first foray into the all-too-precarious world of the music industry. He explains: "The day after the audition, I flew to Germany with them to do a live recording - I didn't know any of the material, I just went for it - and flew back to England, then on to Wales, where we started writing and recording the next album, Fugazy (sic). I'm not on the record because I was in the band for the writing and pre-recording stages only. Anyway, we were writing the material together, but there was a serious personality clash between the lead singer and myself. That was my first eye-opening experience in dealing with a fragile ego. At the time, I didn't know how to handle it, and I was saying, 'What's the deal? How come you're acting like a baby?' I know better now how to deal with that, and it was a very good learning experience for me. At the time, I was this hard-headed wise guy who was cool about everything except working with immature people who have fragile egos. We eventually all decided that it was better if we didn't work together, so I went back to the States."
Unfortunately, the break was not a clean one, due to royalties. "I co-wrote their first Top-20 single, 'Punch And Judy,' as well as another single of theirs," he says. "I was completely green when it came to publishing rights and royalties. I had written the songs with them, went back home expecting them to be honest, and the next thing I knew, they had a hit single and I had an empty pocket. I got screwed out of a lot of money, but I suppose that everybody has got to go through that at one point or another. Marillion left a bad taste in my mouth as far as the music business went. One minute I thought I had my foot in the door, and the next thing I knew I was back in Boston wondering if I was going to have to go back to selling tuxedoes, which I had done briefly one summer... Marillion had stiffed me, people had stolen equipment from me, or hadn't paid me...but I wasn't going to let those things change me. I have always tried to be a really nice guy, to always try to go for the things I want to go for without stepping on anybody..."
"Students often ask me at clinics about how to handle it when those kinds of things happen," he elaborates, "and I have one piece of advice for them. I'm not sure who said it, but somebody did say that this business has a tendency to weed out the weaklings. If you're not strong enough to endure the hardships, then you're not meant to be in it."
As I read further it seems as though Mover was never much of a band guy.
Still, I wouldn't mind hearing your views on this!
Did you really "act like a baby"?
Did Marillion screw him over like he claims?
Also, I was only aware that he helped write Punch & Judy. What was the other single he claims he worked on?
(Do you know what would be awesome?! A Fish Text-To-Speech converter! I have been reading a few of your replies to questions in this forum while also listening using the standard "American accent guy" and I suppose I just had an oddball idea!)
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Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:23 pm
markcurtis wrote:Apologies! Lord only knows why I linked those two things in that hamfisted manner.. I suppose it was to do with the views of people about other people… (hastily backpeddles).
As far as the “difficult” thing- that comes from a conversation I had when I met up with two press people at EMI sometime in 1990 or 1991 as I recall. No big deal, and certainly not anything I bothered to write about at the time (and who would have cared anyway!), just more of a case that it’s funny what sticks in mind your mind and what you remember regarding industry “gossip” from back in the day!
Sorry it wasn’t meant to cause trouble! Honestly - Just an old memory that struck me from back in the day!
Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:37 am