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Re: Feast of Consequences, the Spring Offensive

Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:13 pm

Fair play.

I'm not going to follow the party line, though, and say I'm not disappointed. Because I am. I was looking forward to something new, and that's not going to happen.

But I accept the reasons and appreciate how tough it must be - writing new material after such a long time away can't be easy and I hope the new deadlines won't be postponed again and that Fish can bring it together this time. A writer needs a muse and sometimes that muse can run and hide.

I do hope, however, we can see something different at the convention, if we can't have some new material - Fish has done some excellent stuff yet seems to play the same stuff each time (at least in my experience, which I appreciate is limited - I've been to 4 gigs in the last year - all acoustic and all very much the same - with the exception of Edinburgh, which was unbelievably exceptional). I do hope, however, that at least with the electric band, we can hear some of the other excellent stuff from some of the albums that have been produced.

I have yet to decide whether it's worth attending now from my own personal perspective and I appreciate I'm not a hardened fan like some are. This has come as a big blow to me and I have yet to decide whether it's worth it. I've got a lot of my own crap going on right now and shelling out £500 (including hotel) for something that I'm not convinced will be worth it is a big call.

That said, my own feelings aside, I'm sure it will fab :)
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Re: Feast of Consequences, the Spring Offensive

Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:20 pm

Lady41 wrote:Fair play.

I'm not going to follow the party line, though, and say I'm not disappointed. Because I am. I was looking forward to something new, and that's not going to happen.

But I accept the reasons and appreciate how tough it must be - writing new material after such a long time away can't be easy and I hope the new deadlines won't be postponed again and that Fish can bring it together this time. A writer needs a muse and sometimes that muse can run and hide.

I do hope, however, we can see something different at the convention, if we can't have some new material - Fish has done some excellent stuff yet seems to play the same stuff each time (at least in my experience, which I appreciate is limited - I've been to 4 gigs in the last year - all acoustic and all very much the same - with the exception of Edinburgh, which was unbelievably exceptional). I do hope, however, that at least with the electric band, we can hear some of the other excellent stuff from some of the albums that have been produced.

I have yet to decide whether it's worth attending now from my own personal perspective and I appreciate I'm not a hardened fan like some are. This has come as a big blow to me and I have yet to decide whether it's worth it. I've got a lot of my own crap going on right now and shelling out £500 (including hotel) for something that I'm not convinced will be worth it is a big call.

That said, my own feelings aside, I'm sure it will fab :)


I like honesty !
I'm sure that Fish will provide a feast for us of old and new.
You do have a point as the Convention was originally marketed as a potential launch for the new album.
However the weekend is also more than just about the music,
Hopefully it will be a great social occasion and a lot of fun.
We hope to see you there :)
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Re: Feast of Consequences, the Spring Offensive

Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:48 pm

Lady41 wrote:Fair play.

I'm not going to follow the party line, though, and say I'm not disappointed. Because I am. I was looking forward to something new, and that's not going to happen.

But I accept the reasons and appreciate how tough it must be - writing new material after such a long time away can't be easy and I hope the new deadlines won't be postponed again and that Fish can bring it together this time. A writer needs a muse and sometimes that muse can run and hide.

I do hope, however, we can see something different at the convention, if we can't have some new material -


Unless I got it wrong we will be getting some new material 4 songs instead of the full album though.
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Re: Feast of Consequences, the Spring Offensive

Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:19 am

tosh wrote:
Lady41 wrote:Fair play.

I'm not going to follow the party line, though, and say I'm not disappointed. Because I am. I was looking forward to something new, and that's not going to happen.

But I accept the reasons and appreciate how tough it must be - writing new material after such a long time away can't be easy and I hope the new deadlines won't be postponed again and that Fish can bring it together this time. A writer needs a muse and sometimes that muse can run and hide.

I do hope, however, we can see something different at the convention, if we can't have some new material -


Unless I got it wrong we will be getting some new material 4 songs instead of the full album though.



and Grendel has hardly been overplayed recently ;)

Re: Feast of Consequences, the Spring Offensive

Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:36 am

Lady41 wrote:I'm not going to follow the party line, though, and say I'm not disappointed. Because I am.

I have yet to decide whether it's worth attending now. This has come as a big blow to me and I have yet to decide whether it's worth shelling out £500 (including hotel) for something that I'm not convinced will be worth it is a big call.


I'm not sure there is a "party line" as such. It's also fair to say that most people will be disappointed that the whole new album will not receive its premier at Leamington. I also think that for a lot of people the material played on the electric gigs is almost secondary to the whole experience of the convention weekend. There is a lot of other stuff going on and there will be a lot of socialising!

As fans, I'm not sure there's a lot to be gained by all of us moaning about the further delays. Yes, its unfortunate that it has not been possible to synchronise the album release with the convention, but what would the alternative be? To rush out a half-baked album just to please the few hundred fans that will be able to make it to Leamington?

I'm not sure any self-respecting professional would make that decision.

In hindsight though, maybe Fish will wish that the convention had been arranged for closer to Christmas...?
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Re: Feast of Consequences, the Spring Offensive

Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:42 am

While I can understand disappointment that we're not getting the full album at Lemmers personally I'm quite happy with the prospect of a 4-song teaser. I think a whole new album, exciting though it is, can be a bit much even if spread over the two nights.
Last year I saw Spiritualized play ten new songs in the first 80 mins of a gig and impressive though it was by the end I was ready for something familiar :D
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Re: Feast of Consequences, the Spring Offensive

Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:40 am

oldcrow wrote:While I can understand disappointment that we're not getting the full album at Lemmers personally I'm quite happy with the prospect of a 4-song teaser. I think a whole new album, exciting though it is, can be a bit much even if spread over the two nights.
Last year I saw Spiritualized play ten new songs in the first 80 mins of a gig and impressive though it was by the end I was ready for something familiar :D



I would think he may play Grendel now on the same night as the 4 songs for the new album, hopefully he will bolster this with some other Long lost tracks from his/marillion early days ;) ;) ;) alright bigman! ;)

Re: Feast of Consequences, the Spring Offensive

Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:35 pm

mwelljester wrote:hopefully he will bolster this with some other Long lost tracks from his/marillion early days ;) ;) ;) alright bigman! ;)


I hope so too. :)

Re: Feast of Consequences, the Spring Offensive

Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:59 pm

Conan wrote:I'm not sure there is a "party line" as such. It's also fair to say that most people will be disappointed that the whole new album will not receive its premier at Leamington. I also think that for a lot of people the material played on the electric gigs is almost secondary to the whole experience of the convention weekend. There is a lot of other stuff going on and there will be a lot of socialising!

As fans, I'm not sure there's a lot to be gained by all of us moaning about the further delays. Yes, its unfortunate that it has not been possible to synchronise the album release with the convention, but what would the alternative be? To rush out a half-baked album just to please the few hundred fans that will be able to make it to Leamington?

I'm not sure any self-respecting professional would make that decision.

In hindsight though, maybe Fish will wish that the convention had been arranged for closer to Christmas...?


Fair comment. However, for the record, I wasn't "moaning": I was simply saying I'm disappointed because I am. I don't see the point in pretending otherwise. :tease:

However, I do totally "get" the reasons behind it, as I said, and naturally I'd prefer him to defer the album until it's perfected and wouldn't expect anything else.

I'm sure the weekend will be fab, as I said. New material would have just made it a bit fabber, that's all :) Actually, thinking about it, I've never seen Fish play live with a full electric band cos I've only ever seen him play an acoustic set, so that will be a positive for me. Now if he could just see his way to playing 13th Star, I'll be content enough ;)
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Re: Feast of Consequences, the Spring Offensive

Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:26 pm

Don't know if I'm in a minority here, but I'm kind of glad that most of the new album will be kept back from the Convention. Four songs are enough for me, and will serve an enticing taster.

And Fish and band can play any songs they want (even if I've heard them at several gigs last year) - I'll never get bored of them! :D
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