Ramblings of an insane mind

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Re: Ramblings of an insane mind

Postby Conan on Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:12 pm

arcademannequin wrote:
Chris D wrote:Is Lady41 an alias for that chap from Portugal who posted on here a few months ago..................... :lol:


What happened to him?! I think Bob might have upset him over that argument about port.


Bob knows what he likes. Me? I'm less choosy - especially when the weather's bad. Cockburns? Dows? Not fussy.

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Re: Ramblings of an insane mind

Postby mar on Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:57 pm

For one awful minute I thought we had gone back to the S word :shock: , but, maybe the weekend pass has expired. ;) :lol:
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Re: Ramblings of an insane mind

Postby Lady41 on Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:40 pm

Wow!

Firstly, thank you all for your frank responses.

To answer several of the questions that have been asked I’d firstly like to explain the reason that I haven’t been back to the site: it’s partly because a) I saw no reason to – I’d said my piece b) I thought this post – which could have been, and indeed has been – interpreted as “anti” Fish (which, incidentally, it most certainly wasn’t) – would have been removed c) I felt bad for stating what I thought at the time because I realised it was my perception, which wasn’t necessarily accurate – hence the title “ramblings of an insane mind”, which the majority of you have missed - that implies words that come ‘off the cuff’ (or without malice or forethought, simply ‘musings’). But it was my perception nevertheless. And, to my view, the idea of forums is to be able to state that. But I expected a slating – which I’ve had – but over the last week I haven’t necessarily been in the frame of mind myself to return and stomach the responses. :?

So, specifically…

to arcademannequin, I think you will find that I didn’t criticise Fish’s voice. I said I don’t think it will ever be the same. Why is that a criticism? It doesn’t sound like it did when he sang Kayleigh, Lavender, Market Street Heroes, Assassing, Freaks etc., and much of the earlier Marillion stuff. Fact. That doesn’t mean I said it was bad, as you imply. It’s different and that is fact. I am well aware of the issues he has faced with his voice. If you’d also read my post, you’d know that. Over the weeks preceding my post, I’d read all manner of stuff about him – and caught up on the last 20 years of what’s happened in his life. However, I feel you have only seen the negative in what I’ve said and even placed it there when it wasn’t. I have downloaded a lot of Fish material since I rediscovered my interest and have no critisism. However, I accept what I said on the subject of his voice may have been misinterpreted, particularly in the context of how the whole post has clearly been interpreted.

to Conan, thank you but I feel you have judged me in exactly the way you consider I have judged Fish. I am aware of what he’s been through and am no stranger to it. But I’ve no intention of going into my personal details – my prerogative, as you say. However, I have no argument with you have said. And of course I appreciate you are just as entitled to your opinion and judgement, as I am to mine. That said, to open your heart bare for the majority of your life and then withdraw it at a later date can be deemed arrogant to the onlooker, which is something that I am.

However, I’ve also read your second post: “I think she went way beyond fair in what she said, and it became a bit of a character-assassinating, rambling tirade... but I too miss Fish's regular contributions to this site. Yes, I know WHY that is the case, but I can still miss his blogs and posts can't I?” and I think perhaps that’s where I’m coming from. Luckily for you, you know WHY that's the case - unfortunately, I don't. When I first re-found Fish, the first things I read were the blog posts on here and I was fascinated and interested in his life and his experiences. Now it seems to be the odd tid-bit thrown in to keep the piranhas happy.

to Rainbow “Perhaps Sharon will reply” … yes she will. But perhaps not in the timescales you all expected, eh? ;)

to chocolate frog “she'll be telling us the Pope's not cathholic next” – well, perhaps that might not be a bad thing (incidentally, there’s only one H – for Holy – in Catholic – I’m not convinced even one is appropriate).

to rik “for me fish is a 'one off'” I really couldn’t agree with you more. I will continue to listen to his music.

to docbob – “you post on a forum or on facebook and you insist on a reply” – would you care to show me exactly where I’ve insisted on anything? “respect that Fish is not 24/7/365..... and is obliged to write anything he does'nt want to” … where did I say he didn’t, exactly? I expressed an opinion…. I don’t see the point of inviting people to see your personal details if you want to then expect them to refrain from commenting. That’s my opinion.

to Moston – the voice of reason in my mind.

to mar – thank you for remaining polite.

to Chris D “Is Lady41 an alias for that chap from Portugal who posted on here a few months ago” – no, but you can always live in hope, can’t you? :D

Anyway, I’m really pleased – and honoured - that some of you found fit to reply to me. As I’m a Newbie, so to speak, I thought, eek, gonna get crucified here and booted off the site! Thank you for your honest and not too damning replies. I’ve read all your posts with much interest. As for me, I'm just a person with passion and opinion and I won't always follow where I'm led. I will not apologise for that. However, I do value your thoughts and replies (apart from the stupid one about me being some bloke from Porgugal, which I will treat with the contempt it deserves :D )

Thank you again.

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Re: Ramblings of an insane mind

Postby docbob on Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:09 pm

Lady41 wrote: (apart from the stupid one about me being some bloke from Porgugal, which I will treat with the contempt it deserves :D )



you missed the "S-" quote... way before your time.... ;)

glad you made it back to us, and a man's a man for aw that.. even if you're not a man and not from Portugal, or S-! :D
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Re: Ramblings of an insane mind

Postby arcademannequin on Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:11 pm

Welcome back Sharon!- Absolute respect to you for responding. - No one on this forum wants or expects you to apologise. Like I said, we all have a right on this forum to express our opnions and views, just as we are entitled to disagree with those of others. That's what it's all about. - You are more than welcome here and I hope you stick with us. :D
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Re: Ramblings of an insane mind

Postby Lady41 on Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:20 pm

Thanks guys! :D
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Re: Ramblings of an insane mind

Postby Lady41 on Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:22 pm

you missed the "S-" quote... way before your time.... ;)

I guess so. Probably better of not knowing, eh? ;)
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Re: Ramblings of an insane mind

Postby Conan on Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:35 am

Lady41 wrote:you missed the "S-" quote... way before your time.... ;)

I guess so. Probably better of not knowing, eh? ;)


Too right! A very bizarre time.... all sorted now - I hope!

BTW - I thought that the "insane mind" to which you referred was Fish's, not your own! My bad :(

Welcome back Sharon. Despite the comments made earlier, I think you'll find that few of us on here (and there are precious few of us on here at times!) are blind, uncritical followers of Fish and his music. Most of us have made comments that have upset other forum members, and even Fish himself - to which he has (in the past) responded with remarkable restraint!

The fact that we challenge what we hear and are told makes us more discerning 'fans' (read "appreciators of his music and views on life"). It also makes us hard to please. There are several other bands/artists that I really love to listen to. I go to their gigs (unless they charge what Rush are charging on their current tour). I buy their merchandise. I look in on their forums now and again. But none of them have ever responded in a valid way. Fish has. To me, that's the difference. I guess that makes us very loyal fans too, and we may get a tad defensive!!

I look forward to your next thought-provoking post!!
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Re: Ramblings of an insane mind

Postby mar on Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:37 pm

Ok, fair play to you-and thanx for saying I was polite-I quess I must of been. Very unusual when on the defensive. Look fowards to your future involvement.
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Re: Ramblings of an insane mind

Postby Rich1 on Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:53 pm

arcademannequin wrote:Welcome back Sharon!- Absolute respect to you for responding. - No one on this forum wants or expects you to apologise. Like I said, we all have a right on this forum to express our opnions and views, just as we are entitled to disagree with those of others. That's what it's all about. - You are more than welcome here and I hope you stick with us. :D


Absolutely agree. A very grown up response which is the beauty of this forum - everyone gets a say and gets to voice their opinion - there is rarely any overt anger etc which is so unusual in this day and age.

So thanks for the reply Sharon and please stick around :)
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